Caste Crew V. Are Jatts the Patels of Punjabis?

improper · **Caste Crew V. Are Jatts the Patels of Punjabis? -** 12-01-2006, 02:03 PM

Well are they?

Roddika · 12-01-2006, 02:04 PM

amins are the highest i think of gujus and then the patels and then the shahs

nymyth · 12-01-2006, 02:06 PM

u missed desais

Peace

MissS · 12-01-2006, 02:06 PM

Who cares. If you're a pindu ur a pindu. If you're a hypocrite you're a hypocrite. I mean really, who cares if you're Patel or Jatt or whatever? Those who do care.... they tend to be stuck up arseholes. :p

CTRL+ALT+DEL · 12-01-2006, 02:08 PM

I love the caste system. Only because I am on the top of the chain. Anavil Brahmin. Booyaka all you jaats and ka-jaats.

DewDropS · 12-01-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by radhika

amins are the highest i think of gujus and then the patels and then the shahs

Are you talking about caste? Cause if you are, shahs are higher than patels

improper · 12-01-2006, 02:12 PM

You're like King Henry the 8, a fat ugly bastard that is only royalty because of circumstance and not merit.

MissS · 12-01-2006, 02:13 PM

Brahmins.. priests etc. But they can never rule land, be warriors and fight for their land or be royalty. Kshyathriyas can rule and dictate them tho. Muwahahahah!! Lol.

No seriously, I don't give a shit about caste system. It doesn't apply to today's society. You can't honestly say that all Brahmins are THAT religious, can you?

DewDropS · 12-01-2006, 02:14 PM

The caste system is highly used only in the villages of India. In big cities and overseas it doesn't mean much compared to what it did maybe when our parents were our age.

improper · 12-01-2006, 02:17 PM

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Brahmins.. priests etc. But they can never rule land, be warriors and fight for their land or be royalty. Kshyathriyas can rule and dictate them tho. Muwahahahah!! Lol.

Brahmins rule by proxy. They are the priestly class, that means they control the biggest commodity in India: religion. If you don't think Brahmins have fucked up India and should be slaughtered like the diseased animals they are, then you are truly ignorant.

Ace · 12-01-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MamBo # 5

Are you talking about caste? Cause if you are, shahs are higher than patels

:qwerd: they defintely are higher as far as castes go. I'm a Parikh but they very well related to Shahs.

MissS · 12-01-2006, 02:21 PM

Strictly speaking, Jatt isn't even a caste anyway. No comparison necessary.

Jatt just refers to the traditional roles in society as land rulers/farmers. Once upon a time, some Jatts decided to get in to woodwork, and eventually became "Tharkhaans". Means jack in regard to caste.

DewDropS · 12-01-2006, 02:21 PM

So Jatts aren't a caste within Punjabis? Learn something new everyday

improper · 12-01-2006, 02:23 PM

Caste is work position. Jatt is a caste.

Dizzy · 12-01-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CTRL+ALT+DEL

I love the caste system. Only because I am on the top of the chain. Anavil Brahmin. Booyaka all you jaats and ka-jaats.

:thumb: lol me toooooooo bwhahah...jk i mean who really follows all that anymore anyway.

MissS · 12-01-2006, 02:27 PM

Caste is a class of people. Misunderstood today by people who think one caste is higher than another, when it's original use was to recognise people by the roles they have in a society today. Eventually it had no function whatsoever, and people just became discriminated for not being of a higher caste.

Jatt is not a caste, there is no where in Sikhism that states that a land ruler is more important than one who works with wood. Like improper said.. it's just a work position. But it is not regarded as a "Caste" being higher than anybody.

Shady · 12-01-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MissS

Caste is a class of people. Misunderstood today by people who think one caste is higher than another, when it's original use was to recognise people by the roles they have in a society today. Eventually it had no function whatsoever, and people just became discriminated for not being of a higher caste.

Jatt is not a caste, there is no where in Sikhism that states that a land ruler is more important than one who works with wood. Like improper said.. it's just a work position. But it is not regarded as a "Caste" being higher than anybody.

No where in sikhism does it state it, but in society and culture dictates that a land owner IS considered to be more important because of the VALUE of land, and hence the discrimination that occurs between the haves and have nots

improper · 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MissS

Caste is a class of people. Misunderstood today by people who think one caste is higher than another, when it's original use was to recognise people by the roles they have in a society today. Eventually it had no function whatsoever, and people just became discriminated for not being of a higher caste.

Jatt is not a caste, there is no where in Sikhism that states that a land ruler is more important than one who works with wood. Like improper said.. it's just a work position. But it is not regarded as a "Caste" being higher than anybody.

This is totally untrue. What Sikhism says about caste is not important to what caste means in Hinduism. Castes are totally real in Hinduism. They were made as work positions and there was social mobility (switching jobs) but sooner or later it become very rigid. Actually, that was the logical conclusion... because Hinduism believes in karma and the birth cycle. So the Brahmins were able to cement castes into birthright which has had an enormous impact on India and millions of people.

Any quick glance at the Rig Vedas and one would be familiar with a caste system.

And the fact is that even if Sikhism rejects casteism, a lot of Sikhs don't, because they were previously Hindus.

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Originally Posted by Krupa

:thumb: lol me toooooooo bwhahah...jk i mean who really follows all that anymore anyway.

You are kidding right? Many people follow it. Shady just stated in another thread he wouldn't marry a Jatt girl. That sounds like "following it."

Dizzy · 12-01-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by improper

You are kidding right? Many people follow it. Shady just stated in another thread he wouldn't marry a Jatt girl. That sounds like "following it."

True, i guess they don't follow AS stringent as it used too. better?

improper · 12-01-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Krupa

True, i guess they don't follow AS stringent as it used too. better?

haha no not better. people still strictly follow castes, you have been to india once in your life - not superifically for a wedding or something - you'd realize that many, many, many lives are effected by caste. and many people here will NOT marry someone outside of their caste. why do you think they patel conventions? brahmin conventions? malu conventions? jain conventions? they are meat-markets to find someone of your our caste.

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improper Banned Status: Offline Posts: 2,453 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: atlantic city	Caste Crew V. Are Jatts the Patels of Punjabis? - 12-01-2006, 02:03 PM Well are they?

Roddika Med Student/Former Mod Status: Offline Posts: 3,612 Join Date: Apr 2005	12-01-2006, 02:04 PM amins are the highest i think of gujus and then the patels and then the shahs

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MissS Status: Offline Posts: 3,845 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Midlands, United Kingdom	12-01-2006, 02:06 PM Who cares. If you're a pindu ur a pindu. If you're a hypocrite you're a hypocrite. I mean really, who cares if you're Patel or Jatt or whatever? Those who do care.... they tend to be stuck up arseholes. :p "If you don't stand for what you believe in, you'll fall for anything."

CTRL+ALT+DEL Status: Offline Posts: 5,652 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Jahnoom	12-01-2006, 02:08 PM I love the caste system. Only because I am on the top of the chain. Anavil Brahmin. Booyaka all you jaats and ka-jaats.

improper Banned Status: Offline Posts: 2,453 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: atlantic city	12-01-2006, 02:12 PM You're like King Henry the 8, a fat ugly bastard that is only royalty because of circumstance and not merit.

DewDropS <Insert user title here> Status: Offline Posts: 8,787 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jersey	12-01-2006, 02:14 PM The caste system is highly used only in the villages of India. In big cities and overseas it doesn't mean much compared to what it did maybe when our parents were our age.

MissS Status: Offline Posts: 3,845 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Midlands, United Kingdom	12-01-2006, 02:21 PM Strictly speaking, Jatt isn't even a caste anyway. No comparison necessary. Jatt just refers to the traditional roles in society as land rulers/farmers. Once upon a time, some Jatts decided to get in to woodwork, and eventually became "Tharkhaans". Means jack in regard to caste. "If you don't stand for what you believe in, you'll fall for anything."

DewDropS <Insert user title here> Status: Offline Posts: 8,787 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jersey	12-01-2006, 02:21 PM So Jatts aren't a caste within Punjabis? Learn something new everyday

improper Banned Status: Offline Posts: 2,453 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: atlantic city	12-01-2006, 02:23 PM Caste is work position. Jatt is a caste.